Halloween is over and it's time for clean-up. The staff is given a pile of films to figure out what genre they belong to. Meanwhile the kids are helping with clean-up as well as ball busting. The shelving debates range from Jodorowsky to Die Hard, the jokes about staff range from starting a band to drug use in the bathroom. Later the staff watches and discusses Robert Rodriguez’s "Road Racers", its cast, soundtrack, and the 50's/90's style.
00:00 - Intro / Countdown
00:29 - Basement / ’Do Not Touch Dave’
03:48 - Sorting the Stack of Movies
04:23 - Holy Mountain / Jodorowsky Debate
05:47 - American Psycho — Horror or Thriller?
08:44 - Aliens — Genre Discussion
09:57 - Fight Club — Placement & Genre
11:08 - Silence of the Lambs — Psychological Thriller
12:00 - Something Wild — Jonathan Demme Pick
13:03 - I Saw the Devil — Crime / Vengeance
14:11 - Rubber — Killer Tire (Comedy/Horror)
17:19 - Die Hard (and sequels) — Holiday Arguments
19:18 - Live Free or Die Hard — Holiday Placement
20:51 - Army of Darkness — Horror vs Comedy
22:52 - Audition — Pacing & Genre
26:07 - Bob Roberts — Mockumentary / Politics
28:05 - From Dusk Till Dawn — Horror Shift
37:58 - Feature Presentation Intro: Road Racers
40:06 - Road Racers — Post-Screening Discussion
01:41:56 - Closing & Next Week (Kickboxer)
0:00 3, 2, 1, roll 5. Man's deepest fear has risen again. This time it's personal. I want Styrofoam! Video! I was getting something out of the basement. There's a lot of stuff over there that says like property of Dave and Dave's do not touch, and then there's tarps and stuff. Yes.
0:41 Did you touch it? Well, no, because it said Dave's do not touch. What, what, what are you doing down there? Itâ no, it said clearly said do not touch Dave. I was just giving good advice. Yeah, uh, but the tarps Yeah, yeah, that's, that, that's my project. I'm working on it. All right, you'll find out one day. I mean, it doesn't have a scent that was like gross, soâ no, I, I make sure I have air purifiers running and everything at all hours. All right. Yep. But I have a question though. Yeah, what about this shit in the back of the store? This is really loud and it's taking a long time. Um, yeah, there's like volunteers here helping clean up Halloween from last week.
1:24 We're in the, uh, after-Halloween doldrums, and, uh, none of us really wanted to work, so we hired a bunch of kids that we're paying with candy. So we're at the point where we're so lazy that we are resorting to, uh, free labor. I did not say lazy. I said doldrums. We are depressed that Halloween has ended and, uh, therefore cannot move. It wasn't an attack on you. I was attacking Jack specifically. Wow, maybe, maybe he's lazy about it. I'm dope. Yeah, lazy fuck. Hey Jack, who the fuck are all these people walking around? Well, they're children. They're small people. I was passing by with, with Brandon.
2:05 I just picked up this stack of fucking movies that Crystal got me, or gave me, uh, but were you talking about touching Dave? Well, I was giving specifically notâ no, do not touch Dave. Brandon? Yeah, what's up? Touch Dave. Uh, I'll pass. Okay. What, what was that all about? Something about boxes, orâ I'm justâ what I'm working on in the basement, you don't need to know yet. And then when you know, I might not tell you anyway. If it's a severed head, I'm gonna be very upset. No, it didn't smell. It's notâ it's, it's, it's a gun rack. Oh, I don't even own a gun. Let alone many guns that would necessitate a gun rack. But this is my store. What the fuck are you doing in my basement?
2:47 I've been working on it for weeks, and the fact that you're only noticing now, even though I've specifically told you, indicates how little control you have over the store. I have no control over this store. I got, I got Crystal and the Gang handing me these movies they don't know where to put, uh, so I'll go over that with you guys in a little bit. Crystal and the Gang, like a Kool and the Gang cover band? That's what I was wondering. That should be it. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna start a band. Yeah, they're gonna start a band soon. It's gonna be Crystal and the Gang. I just want to point out the irony that you do not own a gun, but you have that gun rack phrase locked and loaded. And whenever a gun rack comes up, you're just like, bang, Wayne's World quote. That's, that's firing it out.
3:32 That's why I said, well, well, Brandon started it. Oh, Brandon's really good at racks. He's just like a rack connoisseur. Nick, if you're not careful, you're gonna lose me. Yeah, um, okay. So anyway, what's the stack of movies? Oh, a stack of movieâ a stack of movies. I got a stack of movies. They haveâ all right, these kids have no idea where to put these movies, so, um, I'm gonna ask you guys, we're gonna have a collective, uh, thought here and, uh, decide where to put these. Okay, because they're saying we don't know what genre this goes in. I'm like, okay, well, I'll ask the guys then. So we'll see if they're fucking idiots or they're correct, where it's very difficult to figure these out. So let's see. Um, I gotâ first one I got is Holy Mountain. What the hell is that? You know the fuck that movie is? Jodorowsky, man. It's Jodorowsky.
4:32 Dave, so you know Jodorowsky, uh, Holy Mountain. Where would you classify that? Because obviously these guys don't. Do we have an avant-garde section? Because that's the easiest place to put it. That's the easiest. No, I don't like that shit. Okay, um, Dave's picks. Fantasy. Fantasy. It's a bit fantasy. It's just a little bit weird for fantasy, but you know, why don't you put it right next to Jimmy? I mean, is El Topo a western? That's a hardâ that's a hard question. We're gonna watch El Topo at some point. At some point. But okay, so Holy Mountain will go in fantasy next to Dune, Nick? Is that what you said? Yeah, yeah. Okay, not the new Dune, the old dude. Well, heâ yeah, he made the old Dune. Yeah, so we're gonna put it next to Dune and Jodorowsky's Dune and David Lynch's Dune. And if you mix them all together, it makes sense. Okay, and watch them in weird orders, like watch the third Dune that Come once we get it, you know, last or first, and then watch David Lynch, and thenâ all right, Jimmy, Jimmy, Holy Mountain, Holy Mountain, go here. What the fuck is it again? Fantasy, fantasy, fantasy.
5:40 Here. I mean, Dune is technically sci-fi, but you know, whatever, I don't care. All right, so, all right, we got fantasy. All right, um, next is American Psycho? Um, horror. I'm not gonna touch this because I'll piss off Nick no matter what. No, it doesn't piss me off. It's frustrating even for me because it's like, I mean, yeah, it's a horror movie and it's one of my very favorite movies, if not my favorite overall, but it's also a satire and it's also a kind of comedy and a character study. Do we have a character study shelf? That's reallyâ no, no, that's too It's, it's too niche, you know. I, I gotta be like independent films. Yeah, I mean, there's aâ there is a thriller section, right? There is a horror section. It's definitely not action.
6:33 It is kind of a comedy and a satire, but we don'tâ we just have comedy. We don't have like satirical comedy because when you start getting into too many subgenres, it gets too confusing for people. That. So I would say thriller right next to the horror section. You say horror, Brandon? Yeah, I would probably say horror if we're not going too far down in the subgenres. I kind of like putting it in thriller. Okay, so that's 2 for thriller and 1 for horror, and I'm the deciding vote to even tieâ either tie it, um, Or I'll just say fuck it, thriller, because I don't feel like getting into an argument.
7:16 Well, I will say why I put itâ I want to put it in thriller and why I would lean on that, because I think that there are people that would only watch thrillers and would stay away from horror, and they need a little horror exposure when they rent a thriller. But that's a more existentâ that's a very, very That'll fuck your brain up kind of movie. Is there anyâ that's the pointâ section where the shelf touches theâ the next shelf is thriller? Like, put it right over the gap in the 2 shelves so we can put Psycho and American Psycho right next to one another and then just like put Psycho technically in horror and then American Psycho in thriller right next to it. I know exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get that cardboard cut spot out of Michael Jackson's Thriller and put it right in between the horror and Thriller section. There you go, that's horror. Yeah, music in that area too, but it's not a thriller. He calls it a thriller even though it's a horror. That song should have been called, you know, It's a Horror, but he didn't because it would have been like, it's a horror night. He would have said like he had a Boston accent. So, but it says Thriller, so it's horror, thriller, and parlays into each other.
8:28 There you go. Okay, perfect. All right, Crystal's pissing again, isn't she? Damn it. Jimmy, Jimmy, throw her. All right, nice catch. All right, uh, next one. Aliens. Aliens. Okay. Yeah, so is it sci-fi, action, or horror? Well, it's all 3. Just put it in sci-fi. Sci-fi. Put it over there. Put in sci-fi. All right. Yeah, sci-fi. Iâ are we gonna put Alien? Orâ because Alien's in the horror section. Yeah, yeah, go put this one in sci-fi. Okay. All right, we're not gonna keepâ it's notâ it's notâ it's not like the first Alien. If you want to have a collection section, you can do that, but that's up to you. You can have a series section. Yeah, that's true.
9:23 Okay. Yeah, I mean, everybody knows these movies, soâ okay. Uh, Jimmy, sorry again. Can you catch this? Good one. Uh, action. Is it action? What's action? Like Last Action Hero? Action Jackson? He said action. I said no, sci-fi. All right. Okay. We got, let's see, 1, 2, 3, we got about 4 or 5 more. Uh, I got Fight Um, drama. I was, I was leaning on drama, but I don't know about that. We really should have a black comedy section, but dark comedy, not black. Well, we should have a black comedy section and a dark comedy section. I don't know what the fuck that Because Fight Club's all over the place there. It's action, it's crime, it's psychological, psychological thriller.
10:24 Yeah, it's a David Fincher movie. Do we have a David Fincher shelf? No, but we do now. David Fincher shelf, start working. Alien 3, get it there. Alien 3, Alien 3. There you go. Alien 1 in horror, Alien 2 sci-fi, Alien 3 David Fincher shelf. There you go. Get the Finchers put on. Alien 4 goes right next to Amelie. We're going to start doing director spotlights. Yeah. Yes, we're going to have Christopher Nolan. Yeah, of course, of course, Christopher Nolan. Jeez, don't make a Ridley Scott one or we're going to get real confused with Alien. Yeah, Ridley Scott one too, and Tony Scott. Yes, we'll have the Scotts and we'll get, uh, some paper towels and shit and put that there too just to be stupid.
11:08 All right, Silence of the Lambs. Psychological thriller. Nick? Um, yeah, psychological thriller because they're doing a psychological profile of the killer. David? When you said that, I almost wanted to go into the cable guy impersonation. Anyway, sorry. Um, anyway, psychological thriller. I'm saying horror, but you know what, fuck it, the psychological thriller. Put it over there and put Hannibal with the horror.
11:48 Confuse everybody. Oh, I don't know. Ridley Scott in the Scott section. What are you talking about? That's right. Well, this is the Demiâ speaking of, we got a Demi double shot. Because Jonathan Demme makes movies that are kind of all over the place, and I'm not sure if you guys have seen this one. It's one of my favorites, Something Wild. No, I've heard of it, but I've not seen it. Well, David? No, I haven't seen that. Okay, I know of it. It'sâ it starts out as a quirky comedy that slowly turns into a drama that turns into a psychotic thriller crime movie where Ray Liotta is scary as shit, and then it becomes a drama again. So I'm gonna sayâ I'm gonna say drama, even though it has funny moments in it.
12:45 I'm gonna go drama. Jonathan Demme, man. Jesus Christ, man. Like, it's another one who passed away. Looks like Robert Palmer, actually. All right, we got 2 more left from my stack. Did theyâ did they give you guys any? I, I got a stack that's pretty confusing too. All right. Oh God. All right, I got 2 more. I got I Saw the Devil. Crime, vengeance, crime. Yeah, crime, it works. Okay, Brandon? I've never seen it. Whoa. Yeah, all right, you're fired. Uh, get the fuck out. Guy who doesn't listen to our recommendations over here.
13:27 Yeah, I know. Oh, Brandon, I don't watch movies. I'm kidding, that was a bad impression of you. Too busy watching terrible slasher movies, I guess, instead of decent movies. That's true, that's true. You, you have watchedâ yeah, he's, he's my slasher guy. All right, you're rehired. I love you, Brandon. Platonically. Right back at you. Okay, Dave. Sure. All right, so yeah, I'm going crime too. Uh, hey guys! Oh, look whoâ look who graces us with her presence. Uh, put thisâ oh, you know what, I'll put it back. Yeah, it's full. That's fine.
14:11 Rubber. I'm not talking about a rubber withâ I'm talking about the movie Rubber. Comedy. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Okay, Obi-Wan. For a movie. For a movie. I've heard the word rubber here and there, but, uh, it's comedy. Why would it not be a comedy? It's kind of horror-ish. It's kind of horror-ish, but also it's another one of those like American Psycho kind of, right? It's a movie and a holy mountain killer tire. It is about a killer tire where he makes people's heads explode. Yeah, and it's got Wings Hauser like a motherfucker in it.
14:55 Wow, I can't believe he was in that, right? Yeah. Uh, yeah, that's, uh, just a weird-ass movie to remember. They were like, what the fuck is this? A tire. It's like, I don't know, it was in that time of what, like with Black Sheep? It's like, let's have these random killer things and it's kind of a comedy but also somewhat horror. There was a lot of irony going around at the time. Rubber wasâ Rubber was an interesting one. A lot of people fucking despised it, but that was purposeful. Um, the director of it's a DJ. I know that was Quentin Duplaix. Um, who's also known as, uh, Mr. Oizo, if that's how you pronounce it. Uh, he has some awesome fucking songs and he did the soundtrack for it too.
15:41 It's, um, I thought it was a fun movie. It's a fun stupid movie. Um, so okay, so I guess that's going into what? Oh, uh, does anyone want to rent that? I mean, is it worth it? No shelf space for that. Like everybody who would want to have seen it has seen it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, none of them has seen it. No, you're not gonna like it. They'll put it up near the front door and maybe somebody will steal it on the way out. How do Iâ how do I know they're not gonna like it? I, I'm not even saying it's a bad movie. It's not a bad movie.
16:22 No, uh, it's just, uh, it's, uh You got to be in the mood. Yeah, you got to be in the mood for it. It's not like, hey guys, we're allâ let's all hang out and watch Rubber tonight. No, it's, it's like another movie that came out called Blowie. It'sâ anyway, all right, it's a real movie. It's a slasher. Yeah, isn't it a killer blowup doll? Yeah, a guy dressed as a killer blowup doll. Yeah, I met the guy who wrote that. Oh really? Yeah, he also wrote Rotten Tail, so yeah, the less so. Nick, what do you got? Uh, yeah, so this stack of movies, they're pretty well-known movies, um, but the first one is the biggest argument movie in the world, and I'm just gonna say we're not gonna have a large argument over it, we're just gonna talk about it briefly. It's, uh, the first Die Hard movie.
17:19 That's action. Yeah, you know, it's action to me. I agree, it's action. A lot of people say it's a Christmas movie, and, uh, I justâ I disagree for so many reasons. But it's action. It is a Christmas movie, but it's action and can be watched at any time of the year. It's an action movie that takes place at Christmas. You know what's more of a Christmas movie than Die Hard? Die Hard 2. Jack, that's my second movie in the stack. It is in fact a Christmas movie. You're right, because it is, uh, I mean, like, they're traveling, they're trying to get home for the holidays, there's presents. Yeah, way more of a Christmas movie. Yep. There's Willard Scott that nobody knows about. It'sâ that's like under 30 that they talk about in that movie. And they talk about fax machines and air phones.
18:07 There's a secret tunnel that leads out to the runway. Hey, he, uh, theâ it's also got William Sadler, who ties into the movie we're watching. Yeah, it does. It's also got, uh, William Atherton. And let's, let's not forget, got all the Williams. Yeah, let's not forget it's got the OG Django in it too. He plays, uh, Esmeralda. Well, at any rate, there is a couple more movies in the stack here. The 3rd one is actually Die Hard with a Vengeance. That is an action movie too. Well, I'm gonna bring up something here. You might be wrong about that because at the beginning of the movie it's, uh, clearly, uh, emphasizing that it's the hot end of summer in New York City. The, uh, department store that gets blown up, huge back-to-school signs in the windows. Kids are just getting back toâ this is a back-to-school movie.
19:01 You know what's a back-to-school movie? Back to school. Yeah, yeah. Well, I've got one. What's that? What about Army of Darkness? No, you're not doing that. Hang on, we're coming back to Army of Darkness. The next movie in my stack is, uh, Live Free or Die Hard. And you might think it's a Labor Day movie, action movie. No, it takes place on the 4th of July. Here, a kid, go put this on the 4th of July shelf right next to Born on the 4th of July and, uh, the Uncle Sam movies. It's fucking November, we don't care about that. No, no, I mean, you can watch it 4th of July. Nobody's gonna watch that movie anyway, don't worry about it. That's the thing about these perennial movies, you, you, you really only watch them during the months, but they're the ones that you rewatch more than regular movies, right? And, um, you know, even, even the 5th Die Hard movie, Good Day to Die Hardâ now it's not stated explicitly in the movie, but it It takes place in Russia. It is, uh, late winter, early spring. I know what you're thinking. That's right, it's Maslenitsa, the, uh, festival or, uh, festive holiday in Russia that, uh, marks the end of winter and the welcoming of spring. It's also known as Butter Week or Pancake Week.
20:18 And, uh, that's right, it's a Maslenitsa movie. Kid, come back here. Maslenitsa, baby. Go put that on that Maslany shelf over there. Yep. Marilyn Monroe? Nope, that completely empty one. The shelf designed for one, one movie. Nick, he has a name. Who, Bruce Willis? John McClane? The kid you just handâ Robert Paulson? The kid's name is Robert Paulson? No, he wishes. Does he? Does he wish that? Yeah, his name's me. Me. That's me. I'm sorry, did someone say Army of Darkness? Yes. Yeah, Brandon did.
20:59 You're gonna fucking talk about it? Well, yeah, I was just throwing Army of Darkness, like, what do you guys think it is? Is it horror? Is it action? Is it comedy? Is itâ well, it's a waste of time, really. I enjoy it. I think it's fun. Brandon isâ or I Uh, Nick is not a fan of, uh, the Evil Dead series. I know that. Okay, I'd say the first Evil Dead is easily horror. Any, any of the comedy is not on purpose. No, but then Evil Dead 2, it could be a horror comedy. It goesâ yeah, it goes horror, horror comedy, medieval, medieval comedy horror, and then horror, horror, horror. Dead horror. Well, then there's the show too. And the show, uh, I didn't watch thisâ wait, I did watch one episode of the show.
21:49 Horror comedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It actually was more in tune with, I guess, Evil Dead 2 than Evil Dead 1. But the newer, uh, the newer Evil Deads are very like very mean. They're just mean. I like mean movies. Oh, they're mean. Are you putting Army of Darkness in your back pocket there, like in your gigantic JNCO jeans? Who, me? Brandon over here. Oh yeah, yeah, he's canonically wearing, uh, JNCO jeans from now on, like Hulk Hogan in the late '90s. Oh man, yeah, that's a deep cut. Uh, but anyway, I thoughtâ I'm talking aboutâ I thought you only had a Betamax player at home. I have a LaserDisc player as well. Oh, that's cool. So much of your Jinko jeans. Anyway, sorry, did Dave say he had a stack of movies to sort? He does. I do, I do.
22:52 Dave, who gave theseâ who gave you this stack? Uh, I just grabbed this stack from the basement and it just appeared before me. Don't ask me, man. I'm gonna get you a wizard hat because you're like all magical. I, I don't question the basement. Anyway, first movie I got is, um, I mean, it might be a little easier to figure it out, but Audition, because 90% of that movie is not horror. I'm gonna say put that in the boring section. Yeah, that wasâ oh my God, I would agree. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying I, I, I like the movie because I, I literally at least had it sold to me the right way. They were like, well, if you, you might, you'll like what's at the end, but you'll probably be bored by what's gotâ what's before that. I'm like, yes, you were right. You know, they just re-released that, Arrow did, and we have it on 4K.
23:49 And I normally am pretty excited about these movies movies, you know, when they get announced. When I saw Audition, I'm like, absolutely not buying that. Yeah, just not. I, I have seen it once and my memory of it was I watched it, it was, uh, perâ you ever have one of those movies that's like aâ you just fucking hate that person and everything that they like you don't like anymore? Sure, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know if you had a bad breakup, it's like, oh yeah, that That's why, like, every girlfriend I've had after my first one, I said I don't ever want to hear, oh, this is our song, because when we break up, I'm going to fucking hate that song. So don't ruin that song for me, please.
24:35 That's like if you get food poisoning and you can't eat that food type anymore because you got sick from it the one time. Yep, it happened. You can't eat pierogies to this day. Really? Yeah, that sucks. Happened to me with gummy bears. Oh wow. But, but Audition, yeah, it's like, it'sâ I understand its, its merits and people love it and I'm like, oh, awesome, good for you guys. Um, for me, I found it to be boring and thatâ yes, that asshole. Yes, it's one of those movies that's like the most oversold horror movie. I think it's absolutelyâ yeah, it's just on the edge that like, that like a normal person can deal with. Right, and they act like the most fucked up thing you'll ever see, and it's like, uh, not really. It's like a 6 or 7. I mean, it's, it's uncomfortable.
25:24 Yeah, uh, when bad things happen, but yeah, with the, the, yeah, with the saw, you know, not the sawing, but like, yeah, the flossing of the, the floss. Yeah, the piano wire stuff. Yeah, it's okay, but I've seen that shit before. I got it. It's disturbing for, like you said, normies who think that The Human Centipede is the most disturbing movie they've ever seen. That's why I asked, because I was like, do we put this in like drama or thriller just to screw with somebody? All right, I put it in drama comedy. Put it in drama because it's boring. Okay, okay, sounds good. Um, I have 2 more.
26:07 So the other one I have, I don't know how many of you have seen it, but is Bob Roberts. Bob Roberts, yeah, with Tim Robbins andâ well, it's got Giancarlo, Alan Rickman. It's got Ray Wise in it. I mean, it's like a mockumentary. Yeah. But it's not as funny as one would think, but it is. It's a little more on the nose with that, with its, you know, is it like aâ we just call it like aâ do we do like political movies or like we put like JFK and Nixon and everything? Or I wouldâ the thing is that, yeah, like you said, it's, it's a comedy but it's not funny. Um, but it's not funny in a good way, right?
26:53 So it's kind of like Wag the Dog, you know. But Wag the Dog isn't really a documentary. I mean, Bob Roberts is like a mockumentary, like Best in Show or the Christopher Guest stuff. Um, I wouldn't put it in documentary either because it's not a documentary. Just put it over there. Put it in drama on the Maldonistas shelf over there. I'd say drama. Okay, drama, that works. Put it next to Bullworth. Anyway, if you haven't seen that movie, I know we're, we're in a political season and I'm not being political in any way, shape, or form, but it is actually a really goodâ if you want an example, the, the episode Citizen Bob Roberts, which is, um, Sideshow Bob episode of The Simpsons, wasâ the name was based off of this movie. I knew it. I knew there was a Simpson reference coming.
27:47 Well, there's a Simpsonâ that's why I originallyâ like, a friend recommended it, but then I saw it, I was like, wow, this is actually really good. My balls start to tingle every time a Simpsons reference isâ okay, there's a Simpsons reference for everything. All right, what else you got, Dave? One more. Yes, one more, and it's related to what we're watching tonight. Um, From Dusk Till Dawn. Every girl is frightened. That is a horror movie. There's good reason. And yeah, it starts off not as a horror movie, but Jesus Harold Christ on a rubber crutch halfway through that movie. It's more horror than most horror movies. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, it's horror. Nick?
28:32 Yeah, horror. Yeah, yeah. Brandon? C. Whore? It is horror. I know, I was calling you a whore. Oh, fuck you. Do youâ but do you think Do you think it's horror? Do I think it's horror? Horror? Yes. Horror. You guys are stupid. Yeah, yeah, we're being stupid. I know. Okay, all right, they're beingâ shut up. Tell them to shut up. I know, shut up. Nick says shut up. Tell Nick he gets slapped, man. Oh, goddamn it, he just knocked everything. Oh, fuck.
29:13 You guys are cleaning that up. I'm not. I own the store. I don't pay children in candy to take down a display out of a white van. Clean up. You don't even give them full-size candy bars, you get them fun size. Hey, you know, Willy Wonka was celebrated for doing the same shit. Yeah, he was. Problem that Jack's doing it. Absolutely. He's not even killing these kids like Wonka. As a matter of fact, I'm going to wear a Wonka hat. Die? They all lived. They were just horribly, horribly disfigured and deformed. Wonka hat, come in with a fucking cane. Isâ yeah, now I'm not going to hit people with a cane. Well, that's the dream. What, to be Willy Wonka?
29:53 No, to hit people with a cane. Yeah, Mr. Fuji. Is that why you carry around that bag of salt? Throw it in people's eyes? Oh, son of a bitch. Fun fact, I am trained in, uh, 19th century cane self-defense, just so you know. Dude, you remember the Shimukoâ of course you remember the movie Dumb and Dumber, but there's that one part where one of them hits the other one with the cane, and I swear to God, when we were kids, me and my brother and our neighbor, we would just find any stick and wail on the back of our kneeâ the other one's knees as they were walking to try and emulate that moment. This is what violence on film does. It creates violence in children.
30:37 Dave, does that mean you, you, uh, can do self-defense like Caine in Kung Fu? Sure, why not? No, I'm not that good. The hell are we talking about? Come on, on a small scale, you know. Oh, okay. More like Scrooge McDuck. I can't think of a good example. So how about a Michael Caine? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, the Caine in Citizen Kane. How about Candy Cane from Joyride? Sure. How about Paulie? Jack, when he said sure, he meant shut the fuck up. No, I know, I'm aware. I'm just gonna keep going until Dave's head explodes like them.
31:21 Good, good voice. I'm like tired rubber. All right, goddamn it. Um, yeah, I getâ yes, yeah, they're like, are we watching Road Racers tonight? Yeah, Jack, I, I did want to say, can we hit the brakes on this conversation and hit the gas into the screening room? We can, but we're doing that later because we have to open the store whenever these Muppets put everything away. Yes, you're all invited to hang out with us. They should be in school, but they all called out today. It's, it's cut day. It's 4:30 in the afternoon. What are you talking about? When do we open? What, what is it, 4:30?
32:03 Yeah, it's thisâ it's a screening night. We open late. Damn, man, fucking time just flies by. Ah yeah, yeah, we messed that up big time. Brandon and Iâ Brandon, didn't we just go out for coffee at like, what, 10 o'clock? Something like that. Yeah, it's fucking 4:30 already. What the fuck were we Oh yeah, that's right, we were talking about, uh, the best boobs in slasher movies. Did youâ well, did you go to the back rooms again and lose track? No, not bare breasts. We were talking about like idiots in slasher movies, like their boobs. Like, you know, you boob, that kind of watch. Yeah, there's some boobs in Road Racers like that you're talking about. Notâ yeah, yeah, no, we boobs like the Three Stooges. Yeah, like, yeah, that's what I meant. There's, there's definitely that in this movie. Yeah, you'll see when you watch it. Next conversation, Brandon, we're going to be talking about tits. Okay. All right. Not, not bare breasts, like, like, like, oh, you did tit mouse.
32:59 Yeah, you hit fucking tit. Then we're gonna talk aboutâ okay, we'll talk about honkers, geese and ducks, hooters, Allegheny hogs. All right, yeah, let's, let's clean up. And yes, we're gonna do Road Racers later. Uh, sorry to you right there, you can'tâ the store is probably not even gonna open today. Fuck it, we got so much of a mess because of these fucking aisles that we have to clean up from the Haunted Isles thing. So yeah, we gotta find, um, space for everything that I took off those shelves to make them Alanista's shelf. Just have Crystal set up a counter at the, at the door, and then, uh, she could just grab whatever people want. Yeah. And you know what, best bet is to go to the coffee shop down the street, hang out down there for a little bit, and then you can join us later for Road Racers because, yeah, it'll be a fun, fun little talk.
34:00 We'll be talking about RR. Randy Rhodes. Yes, right. All right, that was a good burp. I think the cashier has a drug problem and that's why she's in the bathroom all the time. Is that why she gets random nosebleeds? You see, that's the problem. I can't put a camera in the bathroom because it's illegal. Um, but I doubt it. I don't thinkâ see, the thing is, you said you can't like you would if there was not a law. Yeah, I definitely heard it that way. It didn't stop Chuck Berry. No, no, no, no, I'm not saying it like that, but I'm saying like if we had a camera there, we could see who's doing drugs.
34:44 This is not getting better, right? What do you mean there? If you had one there in the toilet? No, at the sink. At the sink. That's where theyâ but then yeah, they probably do it in the stall or some shit. I don't think Crystal's into drugs. Name's Crystal. I mean, they named her after a drug. They named her after Friday the 13th Lake. That's what they did. Oh, I get it now. Yeah, their last name, the family name was Lake, and then they're like Crystal, but it's not spelled like with a C. They do it with a K because they want to be all fucking cool and shit. Crystal Lake. Crystal. Yeah, she's got a special K right in her name. She's in the bathroom again, you know. I just think that she might just have likeâ maybe she has diabetes or diabetes experiments.
35:30 Maybe she's likeâ or diarrhea. Okay, everything's just gotta go there, man. Hey, Brandon did. I didn't go there, but I'm jumping on the bandwagon. But youâ but you put in cameras. You sure are jumping on the bandwagon. Yeah, diarrhea wagon. Just likeâ you're like, it wasn't my idea, but I just put in cameras. Well, you're the one that's saying she has a drug problem. I didn't say that. I said that, and I, uh, and I'mâ and it's wild speculation on my part. There's a reason she hates all of you. Why? She just hates me justifiably here for different reasons. See, this isâ this is grounds for firing. Watch. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Watch. You do it after mentioning theâ mentioning the bathroom toilet. She's got a case. No, she's No one's gonna listen to this. Nick probably has it. She probably has a case of scotch. Hey Crystal, are you doing drugs?
36:26 See, she said no. I believe her. It's that easy. That's all. If you are, you know you're fired, right? Oh, so you should doâ she says she should do drugs. Okay, it's a good one. I like that, man. People just more insightful than you. People just don't respect a minimum wage job these days. I mean, shit, man, he shouldn't be paying minimum wage, man. I'm not paying him. He pays candy to most of these guys. Candy? No, she's a tipped worker, so she makes even less than subminimum wage. See that? She, she just said she'd volunteer to work here. She'sâ the money is just a bonus, dude. Oh, look at the best place in the world screaming over there.
37:08 New Jersey dick. Oh, she justâ did you hear what she called you, dick? I, I'm so deaf in my old age. Brandon's the cool one too. Yeah, Brandon's the cool one. I know they love you, Brandon. Oh, the kids love you. The children. You're a regular Victor Salva, aren't you? Oh gosh. No, I kid, I kid. All right, yeah, well, uh, yeah, dude or dudette, uh, join us later. We're gonna watch Road Racers.
37:51 Feature presentation. Hey everyone, thanks for coming to the screening tonight. Tonight my pick is Road Racers. It is a Robert Rodriguez film from 1994. It stars David Arquette, John Hawkes, and Salma Hayek. It was made originally for a series on Showtime called Rebel Highway where they were taking the names of all these, uh, '50s movies and then they basically made their own version based upon that title. And this was the first episode of that series where they made feature-length films. I think, um, I haven't seen any of the other ones, but I think Joe Dante has one. John Milius made one as well.
38:37 Um, I don't know if they're any good, but, um, hopefully you'll enjoy Road Racers as much as I do. So here is Road Racers. These kids ain't the same anymore, and you know what's behind it all? Rock and roll. That music is turning the kids into a bunch of sex-hungry, beer-drinking, road-racing werewolves. An outlaw teen on a fast track to nowhere. The world's not really accommodating to people who want to do things differently. In a town where you play by the rulesâ nobody makes their own rules in my townâ or you're played with fire.
39:20 Are you sure you want to be going out with someone like Dude? Yes. I'll be sure to get her back as late as I can. From Robert Rodriguez, director of the acclaimed El Mariachi. Join David Arquette, Helen Shaver, and William Sadler as '50s cool meets '90s style in a small town heading for a big showdown. Road Racers.
40:02 And that was Road Racers, directed and written by Robert Rodriguez. So I'm just going to go right into the conversation and call you guys out. So Brandon, what did you think of Road Racers? Uh, this is the first time I saw Road Racers. I didn't even know this existed, so that was a new experience for me. Uh, I enjoyed it a lot. I like the, um, the editing of it. It'sâ you could definitely, even if you did, if I wouldn't have known it was directed by Robert Rodriguez I would have known watching it. It is also edited by Robert Rodriguez as well. He doesâ yeah, I noticed that too. He does pretty much all of his editing except for maybe now, now in like the modern times he doesn't do it.
40:48 Yeah, that's aâ I, I could definitely tell it has the same feel as a lot of his other movies. Um, I, I also thought that David Arquette was really good. Um, it's kind of a mixed bag with him sometimes. You might get like the weird goofy David Arquette, and like, you know, sometimes like it might feel like he's phoning it in a little, but like this one I thought he did a really good job. Uh, and then Salma Hayek, like I like her in everything that she's in. She's usually pretty steady. Was this like one of her first movies? This is her first, at least first American movie. I don'tâ she might have made some things in Mexico, but I don't know specifically. Yeah, because that was kind ofâ yeah, this isâ he putâ he cast her in this. And then, uh, later, like, this is part of the reason that she got cast in Desperado, because they realized she could act, you know. Because I think they originally wanted like Cameron Diaz in Desperado. Okay, yeah, I could see that. Um, yeah, and then what's it, uh, William Atherton.
41:50 We were talking about him earlier. William Sadler. William Sadler. I don't know why I said William Atherton, but yeah, they're both in Die Hard 2. Yeah, Bill Sadler. Yes. Um, he always plays like a really intense guy. Um, a great villain in a lot of different things. Uh, before we were talking about him, and, um, this is like a couple weeks ago, talking about him and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Yeah, yeah, we were. Yeah, and just, it's funny the range that guy had and like I feel like he deserves a little more credit and recognition. Yeah, he's always really solid and everything. It's either likeâ I think I feel like he got like pigeonholed a little bit. It's like it's either Shawshank Redemption, because obviously that movie is, you know, iconic and that lives out, you know, is likeâ yeah. And then you have, yeah, Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. I feel like he's kind of stuck between like those are the 2 major movies he made Yeah, they're two total polar opposites in the way he acted in those, which I mean shows his range. But, uh, and then the last thing I guess I can touch on is like theâ I thought the music was really good. I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely a period piece, so you get like some of that early, early rock, um, and blues stuff mixed in, but I justâ it just fit the feel of the movie so well. Yeah,
43:21 Link Wray is a good chunk of this soundtrack. There's a whole bunch of other stuff, other music thrown in, but they use actually this Link Wray's Rumble in this movie, and they use it in Desperado as well when he's walking into the cafe and the, and the bar. When he's walking in as well. Mhm. But yeah, this also gave me some feels of, um, The Outsiders, you know, because you got like your greaser gangs and they're like, oh, don't go to the rumble, like part of it. Like, because they talk about the, the rumble in The Outsiders too, where the 2 gangs go and fight with each other. But yeah, that'sâ I feel like that would be like kind of a good double feature 'Cause they're 2 like '50s timepieces, I guess.
44:16 Yeah. And they're made in different eras. So they have different looks at it. I mean, you could also kind of put in like American Graffiti a little bit too with this since it has car culture. Yeah. So cool. I would agree with that. Anything else? No, I think that's pretty much it. Let's go with Nick. I mean, I don't have a lot to say about it because it's not like I really loved it, but, uh, I enjoyed it enough. Um, I think it's definitely likeâ again, I keep saying this every week when we watch an older movie, but it's one of those like little mid-market, or even in this case lower market movies that are just not made anymore. And, uh, it's just a silly little story. And, uh, I say silly, it's not like haha funny. I mean, like, you know, it's a simple story of just a dude literally named Dude trying to race cars, but the cops are giving him a hard time. And, uh, it's all right, it's okay. Um, I think it's really funny when youâ like, like, I looked up about this movie and it's like made for Showtime. And like, there were so many made-for-Showtime movies or made-for-TV movies that then ended up on Showtime, I guess. Uh, I'm just gonna read off a few from the list I found on IMDb earlier. Uh, Psycho IV: The Beginning was made for Showtime.
45:40 Body Bags was made for Showtime. The Birds 2 was made for Showtime. Land's End. Land's End. Sabrina the Teenage Witch, or as I like to say, Sabrina, that was, uh, made for Um, top that. Yeah, this one. And also Vampirella, a movie you may have heard of but never saw. Um, I, I did at some point. I don't know, I'm a loser. Um, I feel that, uh, the former WCW Champion David Arquette was not too great in this. I don't feel like he was, uh, too great in this. Um, I feel like Like, David Arquette's good in things when he doesn't have to carry the whole picture, you know? And I feel like that was kind of not that cool. There's cool stuff in this movie though, um, stuff like there being some rockabilly band with a guy who's singing and playing saxophone that's like presented as if he's the coolest guy in the world. Like, sure, put that in a movie, why not? When I was watching it, I was thinking about how this movie is very aesthetically a Jack movie. So I guess it's interesting that we'll throw to Jack next.
46:58 But it didâ and like in terms of aesthetics, we willâ I've talked about like Nic movies and like what they are. They're hard to pin down because it's like it's going to be ultra violent, but also probably neon lights and style over substance. And, you know, you watch a movie and you're like, I get it, that's a Nic movie. And the reason I would say that this is a Jack movie, it's like a movie that takes place in the '50s, not from the '50s. Uh, there's like a bunch of rockabilly during scenes where there doesn't need to be rockabilly. That's kind of a Jack thing. Uh, I will happily throw to Jack to see if I'm right about it being a Jack aesthetic. Jack, you don't get to throw to him. This is my conversation.
47:40 I apologize. My question for youâ hang on, hang on. My question for you, this or Ready to Rumble as far as David Arquette performances? Uh, definitely this. Like, Ready to Rumble is the toilet paper of movies. I have seen that movie so many times and it's so terrible. It's a bad movie. I think I watched it because Diamond Dallas Page is a bad guy and it's like the one time, like the one few time he's like a really real asshole, which is the opposite of him. So you should watch Devil's Rejects. Well, yeah, yeah, I know. No, I know. Yeah, he's done that too. I just meant asâ he's as Diamond Dallas Page, you know. I like to pretend he's Diamond Dallas Page in Devil's Rejects though. He, he kind of played himself. Yeah. What was your question, Nick? Can you throw to Jack to see if I'm right about it being kind of Jack aesthetic?
48:31 No. Yeah, go to Jack. Yeah, end the show. Brandon, I have a question. Yeah, I had a question first and you didn't answer it, motherfucker. May I please see this? May I please see the storage facility, Dr. Vakeman? Why do you want to see the storage facility? Because I'm curious. I want to know what you do here. All right, um, yes, Nick, it is a Jack movie. Um, But in a different way. Let me explain. Road Racers I saw on Showtime without knowing who Robert Rodriguez was, um, at the time, or not knowing that Robert Rodriguez directed this, I should say. Um, I didn't know who David Arquette was really at this time.
49:31 Um, I saw him in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and, you know, the movie and, um, a couple other things. But when I saw this, because I remember Rebel Highway being a thing on Showtime, and I got a boner, you know, I was like, I'm totally gonna watch this entire series. And I remember, uh, surfing channels, and for the young kids out there Yes, you guys, uh, we didn't have the option to start a movie over. It'sâ when it aired, that was it. And whenever you pushed buttons on your little remote, you gotâ it's like showtime's on. And the scene I remember is when Rumble played and the shit was going on in the, uh, the little diner. Uh, with where David Arquette was looking at them. And I'm like, this is gonna be awesome. I love this song. I want this. This is what I want to see, but I'm not going to watch it from here. And after that, never saw it again because they just never aired it again. Um, the funny thing, uh, when I researchedâ well, when we were doing, um, Road Racers, I looked it up and I'm like, because I have the Blu-ray And I'm like, did I ever fucking watch this? I, I'm like, I know I bought it, but I don't think I ever fucking sat down and watched it.
51:00 And lo and behold, I never fucking watched it. I had it, but I neverâ and like you said, Dave, you were like, it's not a Sin City movie. You told us that last time, uh, because they made it look like it was from Sin City with black and white. And that's to totally not what this is. I don't think there's one shot in this movie that's black and white. So, well, except for Invasion of the Body Snatchers footage, you know, which, uh, and, you know, we'll get to that. But, um, what did I think of the movie? Um, it is definitely a very close homage to movies of the '50s but with a Rodriguez '90s flair. Where it has more violence and, you know, more faster cut scenes, not long dialogue of, you know, guys just hanging out in a fucking car and stuff.
51:58 But I thought the movie was enjoyable. It's not like one that I'm gonna say you have to watch, but I would watch it again, put it on for like an aesthetic kind of night. I think it would be fun to watch. Acting-wise, I think the stars of this movie are John Hawkes and William Sadler. They're definitely really good. I even like the, uh, the guy who owns the little diner. He's really fucking good at it too. Salma Hayek, um, whereas she is, she is beautiful, I don't thinkâ the weird thing is I don't think she's a good actress. After all this time and watching her in a lot of stuff, she's not that good.
52:46 She's just likeâ she's, um, I guess serviceable. I guess she, she serves her role that she's playing, but that's about it. I didn't buy her as a teenager in this either. She looks like she's about 30 in this movie. I don't know if it wasâ I think it just says she doesn'tâ didn't age for so long. Yeah, sheâ I know if it was the makeup or what. Yeah, because like when she goes, oh my God, we can't, we can't, we have to go home to my parents. I'm like, wait, what? She looks exactly the same. I mean, granted, this and Desperado are within theâ filmed within the same year, right? Right. She looks like a 4th grade teacher. She really does. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, even David Arquette, um, doesn't look the age. Like if you at this time If you got like Shane West or somebody of like the '90s caliber actors, as you know, even though Arquette was of age and stuff, they just, they didn't have that, that look of the '50s like Arquette does. I mean, he did the same shit with Riding the Bullet and MacGyver's Maid and all that. He played a fucking rockabilly dude and all that shit too. But, um, I think that Arquette would have been better as the villain in this and somebody else in his role, or maybe the villain as thatâ as the main lead, uh, honestly. Um, but I thought that, you know, the, uh, the girl getting her hair caught on fire was fun.
54:15 Um, it was mean, but it's somethingâ I don't think anything like that would have happened in the '50s movie. Um, but yeah, uh, the Sarge, um, William Sadler was fucking great. He's great in every goddamn movie he's in. Um, yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a good movie. And I think it's, um, this is right after El Mariachi. It's his first movie after El Mariachi. And Iâ yes, he made this, he made, um, he, he made this, and then Desperado and From Dusk Till Dawn came out in the same year. And he did that to avoid the John Singleton, um, problem of the sophomore film. So he's like, he's like, I won't tell you which one is my second film.
54:57 Like, I made 3 films. So that was kind of what he did. Yeah, I know that Deborah Hill, she's the one who produced Rebel Highway, and I thinkâ what is itâ John Milius did one of the movies, and I knowâ yeah, and Dante did another one. Yeah, but the weird thing is that none of those movies are available anywhere. Yeah, you could barely get this movie, and the only reason it was is because, like, I, I think of Sin City because I owned it on VHS forever. It was stuck on VHS. Mm-hmm. And It wasn't until like Sin City came out that they were like, yeah, we'll put Road Racers out on DVD, right? And now you can, you can get this one. I actually all saw that Showtime, the Paramount+ app, is actually playing Road Racers streaming, but I don't know if the other Rebel Highway ones are streaming. I think they are. Yeah, I, I looked it up. I couldn't find any of them because I was like, that's right, you know, because when I saw that and I saw Deborah Hill I'm like, well, shit, John Milius. And then it's like, oh wait, you can't even fucking see this. I'm like, what? But one thingâ okay, I'm sorry, I was just gonna say, going along with that, it is funny how like you had said that like once these things were on, you just never saw it again. Like I just mentioned Psycho 4, had a similar experience when I was likeâ it was on like, I think like AMC at some point in the '90s played all the Psychos back to back, and I was like, there's a 4th one? Because I really love Psycho III as a kid for some reason, right? I don't even know. Boobs, maybe?
56:25 I don't recall. I don't recall. I barely recall the movie. But, um, I just watched it a couple weeks ago. What, were there boobs? There were. Oh, there's tons of boobs. Yeah, yeah. See, I'm notâ Kat Shea, who made, um, uh, Dressed to, uh, not Dressed to Kill, uh, Stripped to Kill. Um, she shows her thingies in that. And then Jeff Fahey with that lamp on his Yeah, that's it, the lamp scene. I was, I was a teenage boy. Yeah, I was a teenage boy. I was, uh, at the mercy of the chemicals in my body. Yeah, but, um, the, the thing I was gonna say is like when there was a 4th one, it was like clearly a made-for-TV movie when I watched it, but I was like, I don't understand where this came from, you know? Right. Uh, very weird. Um, anyway, I'm sorry, continue. No, it's fine. I remember it coming out because, um, I remember reading Psycho 4 and I know this isn'tâ this is Road Racers, but Psycho 4 was in Fangoria magazine, and theyâ I actually, I have the 4K of Psycho 4 in a box set by Arrow where they have 2, 3, and 4, um, which is quite fun to watch. But, um, 4 is not that good of a movie, but it'sâ no, it is not. 2 is great. Huh? 2 is great.
57:37 2 is amazing. 2 is almost, if not better than 1, in my opinion. I feel like they go side by side. 3 Not as good, except that weird, that weird twist withâ anyway, fuck that. Okay, Road Racers though. The soundtrack of this, the funny thing is this entire soundtrack isâ I know, I knew every fucking song. I knew you would. I knew you would. That was like part of it. I was like, I, Iâ when I watched, when I saw it again, I was like, Jack's gonna know all of this music. I do. And so many of them were in both, uh, some of them were in Desperado Yeah, uh, some of them were in Tarantino's movies. Um, like he wanted to use Jack the Ripper in this, but they had some delay with getting the rights for this one, and they then they put it in Desperado in the opening scene. Huh. Now my, my, uh, one question is, I, I don't think it is. I know there is a movie from the '50s called Road Racers, but I don't think, I don't think it's not the same. It's not real.
58:39 It's not that. That was the whole point, was they took the name of a movie from the '50s like that, the they must have had in their catalog or something, and they just made a movie with that title. Okay. All right. So like, you'llâ you should find a variation of that, you know, in each thing. Um, right. Yeah, that, that, that's, that's, you know, it's there. But yeah, the, uh, the music's really good. Uh, I like the band. I like the band that opens it. It felt very Streets of Fire to me. Um, do you recognize the sax player? No, he's not a fan. Heâ well, I mean, he's not on surfaceâ he'sâ he did the music for the movie. He put it together and everything for the, you know, put it all together and everything. But Johnny Renoâ but apparently he played in Stevie Ray Vaughan's band, um, back in the day. But on top of that, he's in a bunch of Robert Rodriguez movies. Um, he's the sax survivor in Planet Terror. When they're in theâ when they're in the jail and they're playing the sax music, and then it cuts to a guy playing saxophone in the jail, that's him. So is he the one that did the sax in the Grindhouse main theme? Yes. Yeah, because he's friendâ he's in, um, Robert Rodriguez's band Chingon. Okay, I have to do it. I, uh, well, like, he's like anâ he's an Austin musician, which is why, you know, Robert Rodriguez, no, you know, encountered him. And then the, uh, the drummer is the co-writer of the movie who went to film school with Robert Rodriguez, Tommy Nix, and he plays Nixer Or I think I forget they call him in
1:00:09 Planet Terror. He's in Planet Terror as well. But that's why the character of John Hawkes is called Nixer, because Tommy Nix was the co-writer of this movie. Did youâ sidebar, my apologies, but I'm getting one of those factoid boners right now. Activate the sidebar. Activate sidebar. Okay. The sax, uh, when he's playing that, you know, the, um, the Grindhouse main theme. Okay. All right. So, and Nick, you're gonna be part of this. Brandon, David, you're all part of this. Nick? Yeah. Broken Arrow. What about it? You know Broken Arrow? I'm familiar. Are you familiar with bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum?
1:00:59 Boom, boom, boom, boom. Are you familiar with that in Broken Arrow? Yes. No, I don't know what you're doing. So that's the, that's the, uh, the theme from Broken Arrow, right? And I think that was Hans Zimmer, if I'm not mistaken. I think so. Okay, so this is, and this is, uh, fuckface Harvey Weinstein's doing too. So that happened. All right, you had that from Broken Arrow. Uh, when they made Scream 2, they had temporary music which featured David Arquette, who's from Road Racers. Uh, between Deweyâ there was a scene between Dewey and Gale. The song that they used was the actual, um, for the temp track. The temp track was Broken Arrows.
1:01:48 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. That became Dewey's theme. Theyâ so, but the soundtrack, the score for Scream 2 was made by Marco Baciromi. He's like, I'm not going to do somebody else's score. So they, they got the rights to use the Hans Zimmer score for Dewey's theme in Scream 2. When Grindhouse came out, and I'm watching that for the first time, I'm like, you know, and then all of a sudden when they go intoâ I'm like, so did he get the rights to Broken Arrow for this too? But it's the same thing, but the sax player is playing the same exact song from all these movies. Pretty cool. Interesting little shit.
1:02:41 Anyway, sorry about sidebar. Yeah, that's how my stupid brain works. My apologies to everybody listening out there. I'm sorry, but that's how it works. It's all good. Yeah, it's interesting though. I think it's really interesting how that kind of shit happens. Um, funâ when did they install a train station? These lines have been abandoned for 50 years. 50 years? Yeah. Um, so the funny thing, Dave, um, I want to bring this up to you. All right, um, so you said that he made Road Racers after, um, after El Mariachi, right? Yes, he made El Mariachi and then got, got the deal and they re-released it in '93 because he made it in '94. Well, he made it in '93. '93 is when it got released, and I think that might be the Sundance year as well, or maybe '92 was Sundance year, right? Yeah, because he was after Tarantino and like Reservoir Dogs, right?
1:03:50 So one, one word of advice for anybody out there listening: you can't find Road Racers on IMDb. Even in Robert Rodriguez's bio of direction, the only thing you can find is Rebel Highway because it's It's like Tales from the Crypt, but it's like an episode of Rebel Highway. So that's how theyâ even though it's a movie, it's a feature-length film. Um, so if you're trying to look up any information on this movie, you can't type Road Razors and find it. You have to type in Rebel Highway to find out anything about it. But yeah, they don't even use Rebel Highway in the poster. Like, I have the poster.
1:04:35 Yeah. And everything. And like, there's noâ they don'tâ it's nowhere near any of the marketing for it at all. So it's just how IMDb, I think, categorizes it for some reason. Yeah, they, they categorize it as like season 1, episode 1, I believe. I think that's what it was. Um, but yeah, I mean, so John Hawkes, man, I guessâ was this likeâ I know he did that movie, he did a scary movie, not the, um, not the other, not the the spoof movie Scary Movie, but he did this shitty fucking, uh, horror movie called Scary Movie. Uh, he was the star of it, and I think that was his, like, one of his major first movies. But was this, like, his first film?
1:05:23 It's got to be near the first one, other than unless he was, like, a smallâ yeah, Scary Movie, because I remember him, and I'm seeing him, like, little things, like, yeah, like, uh, what is it, Playing God and stuff. But that was, like, '97. He's a pizza boy. In Johnny B. Goode, you know, like, you know, nothing, nothing where he's actually like acting, right? Um, so yeah, I mean, I would say it's probably one of his first things. I mean, maybeâ I don't, I don't know whatâ as far as the casting, other than Salma Hayek, Iâ and David Arquette, like, theyâ he wanted to put him inâ Robert Rodriguez wanted to put him in a serious role, so, because he knew he could act and he wanted to, you know, give him that opportunity. And then Salma Hayek, again, that was also like her first, uh, role, first major movie. And then yeah, with his, it looks like it. I mean, I see he did like an episode of Briscoe County Jr., and he was inâ isn't itâ he was Mark the waiter in 2 episodes of Wings. So you know what, if, if I had, if I had the pull and the money, I would cast Bill Pullman and David Arquette as brothers because they have the same face, facial mannerisms, and also the same voice when they talk. And then you'd bring in Bill Pullman's son and he, and he could be his uncle. His uncle would be like, Uncle Davey. Yeah, what's up? Like, they're kind ofâ Arquette is kind of very much like, um, he's like Christian Slater But
1:06:56 not, you know what I mean? He's like, he's like, yeah, Dean trying to be Christian Slater who's trying to be Jack Nicholson, especially in this movie with his hair slicked back. Yeah, and like constantly squinting. Yes, I underâ I honestly thought that when I watched the movie, so I understand exactly what the fuck you're talking about, right? You're right. Busting out the tough guy voice the whole time like he's Corey Feldman in every single movie. Trying to sound like a tough guy. Oh God, I really want to watch The Birthday, but I'm afraidâ that's a horror movie with Corey Feldman in the lead. But, um, yeah, I, I think that, uh, I mean, it's weird.
1:07:39 David Arquette isâ heâ I like David Arquette a lot. I think he's actually becoming a better actor as he ages. Um, when he was younger and going through troubles, I think that hindered a lot of his performances. Like, he justâ he always looks like he's looking at the sun and he's squinting like this. He's like Steven Seagal. Yeah, like somebody's shining a big bright light in his eyes and he's like, I don't know ifâ I don't know, should we do that? You know, he's a better fake fighter than Steven Seagal though. Oh, that's true. Yeah, Seagal is He's like a freaking douche.
1:08:20 Well, he is a douche. A traitor. Yeah, I mean, let's, let's be real though. Steven Seagal's movies in the beginning of his career, Out for Justice and all that, are fucking phenomenal, but not because of Steven Seagal. Yeah, it's because of the direction and the supporting cast, let's be honest. But that's how it is with some of Van Damme's movies too. That's how it is for almost all of Chuck Norris's movies, for sure. Van Damme had some charisma though. He had a little bit. Yeah, Van Damme had charisma. There areâ there areâ now I'm not saying he's not good. I'm saying like there are some of the plots of some of the moviesâ like, I love Timecop, but I don't know that it's great because of Van Damme, right? You know what I mean? Yeah, I do it though. Okay, I was gonna say Steven Seagal is great when he dies in, uh, Executive Decision.
1:09:06 There you go. Continue. That was everybody's favorite part of that movie. Yeah, you know, um The hell was I gonna say? God damn it, you just threw me off with the executive decision. Now I'm thinking like Jack Dies decision. Yeah, um, shit, it was our cats staring directly into the sun, sunlight. Yeah, it said, uh, True Blue is about a guy. Uh, what was it? Uh, well, it's part ofâ it was part of, uh, I'll remember it. It was about road racers though. Um, I, uh, well, '50s, '50s movies in particular. Oh, that's what it was. Kevin McCarthy. It was cool to see him in this, but I was like kind of pissed off, and that was like such a shitty fucking use of Kevin McCarthy. I'm a big Kevin McCarthy fan, and, um, I met him before he died too, which is cool. But, um, Invasion of the Body Snatchers is one of my favorite horror movies ever. I, as far as like older films, that one is like top.
1:10:11 It'sâ I love that and all its remakes. There hasn't been a bad one in my opinion because it's like that fear of like, you know, the anxiety that everybody else isâ you're the person that's outside of everybody else's, like, you know. But besides it, but like Kevin McCarthy just like shows up in the theater and grills the camera and then that's it. I'm like, what the fuck? And the post-credits sequence. Yeah, whatever. It's just, I don't like it. I, I don't like that kind of shit because for people that are not in the know, it's like, why is this guy looking atâ well, I, I likeâ I think the post-credits sequence is the better use of him. I think the first use isn't as good because the, the post-credits sequence is good because He just says his name and then he disappears and then you look at the screen and it's him. That makes a lot more sense.
1:11:06 I know that there was a lot of different problems making this movie, a lot of things they had to cut and keep out. Robert Rodriguez did write a book that is out of print. I used to have a copy but then I think I loaned it to somebody and lost it. But it's similar to the El Mariachi Rebel Without a Crew book. That just kind of goes through his day, his like journal from day to day. And like, he says, in retrospect, he was probably being a little bit like temperamental and trying to be like, oh, I'm like the cool indie filmmaker. And then I'm gonna have this Hollywood crew and they don't like listen to him. Because he refers to them as saboteurs regularly. Not that he had like a terrible time making this movie. It's more just, I think he was used to doing, you know, 20 roles. And then like, suddenly you're on a union set and someone's like, no, that's my job. Why are you taking taking my job away from me. So it was just him adapting.
1:12:00 This is the movie where he adapted to, like, to how he could bring his moviemaking style into a Hollywood film crew, right? Okay. It's, it's, it's an interesting book. It's not, like, stupendous, but it was justâ it gives a lot of good background. And that's why, like, I know things about, like, the rights of the Link Wray songs. And they, they got them super cheap. They didn't cost anything because nobody knew whoâ at the time, like, nobody knew who Link Wray was to charge more for it. Right. So he, so he was able to get those and he's like, that's, that's great, that's what I want. And then Johnny, uh, Reno was, um, was, uh, the, the saxophonist, was able to like put together all this, you know, really good music. And then obviously has some really good performances. Do you have anything else, Jack? Because I didn't get to talk about it at all. I have, I have the entire Link Wray collection actually, because I'm serious, I fucking love Link Wray. Is one of the all-time greatest.
1:12:59 So if you ever meet Robert Rodriguez, you just, you just talk about Link Wray, and that's how you can be in a long conversation with him, right? Yeah, that's true. I did stand next to Guillermo del Toro when we were looking at posters at Monsterpalooza, but I was like, how you doing? Close enough to smell him. Yeah, that's as far as it went. And he's like, uh, go fuck yourself, and walks off. He actually did say, uh, he said, hey, in the future you're gonna do this show with Brandon, tell him to go fuck himself. So from Guillermo, he says, go fuck yourself, Brandon. I did, I did meet Guillermo del Toro. Did he also tell you to tell Brandon to go fuck himself? No, it wasâ I happened to beâ it was, it was actually when we were in town for Monsterpalooza at one point in LA, and I wouldâ I went to Meltdown Comics and I was just browsing the comic book store, and then like a camera comes in and Guillermo del Toro's with him, and basically he's just talking about his comic books And then afterwards he went around the store and just like said hi. Like, you know, it was like 2 seconds, like, hey, how you doing? Like, hey, you know, I like your movies, you know, kind of. I didn'tâ I don't know, I don't think I said that, but it was just like, you know, good to see you kind of thing. So it was cool. Road Racer story-wise though, I will say it's not a great story, but it's a story that moves. This movie is not boring at all, by the way.
1:14:19 And it's 90 minutes. I, Iâ 90 minutes specifically for, for Nick. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. You know, I really really, really, really, really like the end of it though. Yes, because you're expectingâ well, you're expecting David Arquette to die, you know, but he doesn't. And he gets even with everybody and he just leaves everybody. He's like, fuck it, I'm on my own. And he leaves Salma Hayek and John Hawkes back and just rides off you know, with blood on his head. That is the coolest fucking part, that image of him, uh, like giggling with madness laughter as he's driving away in the dark with blood all over him, right? Every movie should end with a scene like that.
1:15:06 That's likeâ I, I love it when somebody rides away with madness, uh, like the end of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, covered in blood madness. Any movie that ends like that, I, I, uh, give it an extra little star. One thing this movie reminded me ofâ has anybody seen Breathless with Richard Gere? No. No. Um, that one, it'sâ it, it becomes very drama and, and, uh, romance kind of movie, but it's a movie that, uh, some of this, um, some of the music from that isâ it's very '50s, uh, very '50s, uh, and it's very Sin City in the beginning of it too. Um, And also the music from it and the character, um, was used or borrowed for Pulp Fiction. There's a lot of Pulp Fiction in Breathless, but this movie kind of reminded me of that too with that, uh, with the, uh, not thatâ not the ending of it, but just the him in the car with all the shit. It's kind of like, uh, Natural Born Killers too where Um, Mickey and Mallory are driving in the beginning and all this crazy shit's going on. That happens in the beginning of Breathless, and it's like, uh, it's almost like a Coen Brothers movie in the beginning. But, um, that has that '50s vibe as well if you're into like '80s movies that are, uh, set in the '50s but not really.
1:16:31 But this one here though, I just, I don't know, I just, I just enjoyed watching it, you know. I It was fun to watch it tonight. It's good. It was a good, good fucking movie. I, I liked it. So I don't know, I'm not grading it, but it's okay. I'm gonna give youâ I'm gonna give you my piece about it because I actuallyâ yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck my face. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yeah, go ahead, please. Trying to wrap up the conversation. He's been here a little bit. A little bit. So This movie, I, at a certain point, I was a big fan of watching all of Robert Rodriguez's movies, tracking them all down, pretty much like around film school, you know, early 2000s and everything, like right before Sin City had hit. So this is like maybe just after Once Upon a Time in Mexico came out.
1:17:25 I saw that he had made this one movie that was only available in VHS. So I tracked down a VHS copy, And I, I really love this movie. I justâ it connected with me at the right time, uh, in the right place. And I like the performances. I, you know, when I watch it now, I can see the, the low-budget, you know, element of it, the kind of rushed element that also exists in El Mariachi, for example, you know, where they're just making a movie as fast as possible. They only shot this the movie in 13 days. He also wrote the movie in 10 days with Tommy Nix. So, um, because he was kind of brought on, um, second, um, on this originally, actually it was supposed to be Wes Craven was going to direct a movie called Road Racers.
1:18:15 It wouldn't have been this movie, but, uh, Wes Craven decided to go do, um, New Nightmare instead. So fun little fact there. I think the supporting actors are the main element that make this stand out. Less so Arquette and Salma Hayek. I think John Hawkes is obviously the absolute standout along with William Sadler, as has been said. JT, the diner guy, O'Neal Compton, he's really good. He plays the I, I remember him from Seinfeld. He's, he's the guy that is in the, uh, the cowboy hat that is always doing business deals with Kramer. I think it's like Heffler or something like that. Something like that.
1:19:05 He's the one that's like, you're notâ like when, when they're supposed to get, uh, someone to roll Cuban cigars and he, um, Kramer gets Dominicans instead. Like he's in that scene, he's like, you're not trying to sell me Dominicans, are you? You know, like it's, it's He's just aâ plays a goodâ I looked atâ looked up everything. He, he really just kind of madeâ played bit parts in everything he did, but this one I think he really stands out. You know what's funny is like I was talking about how like the Jack aesthetic of this movie, right? Like it's definitely a Jack-style movie. When I saw this guy JT in this movie, I was like, that's, that's Dave's guy. I'm not even joking with you. I was like, that's Dave's character.
1:19:45 I knew it. I knew it. I was right. Oh yeah, he steals everyâ and John Hawkes is doing a great job acting with him. I think that's like, I think that's part of it. The fact that he's just chewing up the scenery this whole time, like saying, you're not going to amount to nothing. You're going to die with one of my burgers in your mouth. You know, I think if John Hawkes wasn't a more competent actor, wasn't so amazing in his role here, it wouldn't play as well. But they play off each other so well to where I think also David Arquette struggles with that, as with that. So, but yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, the comparison between the two of them together, it's like Hawke is like beating the shit out of Arquette acting-wise in this.
1:20:36 And the, the other scene I gotta call, call out that I because it's batshit crazy, and that's not the final scene, which is also kind of batshit crazy, is the, the scene where he's going to the club and the, the guy who's the cool rockabilly saxophone player, and they've sold out and they're just doing a, you know, a little sock hop kind of, kind of music. Like, I love that fact that he just goes up and punches him and everything, but then John Hawkes opening up the side and revealing that they're playing from a record and just him going, it's a record! And the whole place just starts fucking going crazy. It'sâ there's no point to it other than like, it's just everything spiraling out of control and he's lost his chance and everything like that. But just thatâ I don't know why, but I love that moment of just, just that, just, it's a record! And that just makes everybody in the club want to beat the shit out of everybody. I think I like those moments. It's, it's the food fight moment of this, of this movie, you know, where you justâ somebody yells food fight and therefore everybody must food fight. True.
1:21:45 William Sadler is my favorite part of this movie, and Jack and Nick know this. I've talked about William Sadler in this movie. One of the few slasher cast meetups that we had atâ what was the name of that? What was the name of that horror con? No idea. I thought Jack would know. Monster something. Monster Mania. Monster Mania, thank you. So William Sadler was there. I, I had a Road Racers poster that I found that, like, I bought it from, like, some defunct video store that had it in their archives. And I had him go sign this, and there's a, there's a picture of, of him looking at it, and he's, like, dumbfounded. He's just like, where the fuck did you find this? And, and he was great, he was awesome. But like, Iâ it was a great interaction, uh, you know.
1:22:39 I, I have a great picture of me smiling like an idiot, um, and I really, I really love William Sadler. And I love that I have, you know, his signature on my Road Racers poster. And just the fact that like I could bring something that heâ probably nobody had ever approached him with, you know, because how many people are going up with like, oh yeah, sign my Bill and Ted, you know, Phil and Ted's Bogus Journey, signed my Shawshank Redemption stuff. And I'm like, nope, I got my Road Racers poster. And I liked that I could at least maybe for that day, he was like, wow, that was really, really different. So, and it was a good, it created a good, like real human moment where at cons you kind of get, it's, you know, it's a little fake, right?
1:23:23 So, but maybe for you. Well, you know what I mean? The celebrity interactions can sometimes feel a little forced or you're not even allowed to really interact. Like, I mean, I got to wave at Christopher Lloyd because Christopher Lloyd had been sick, and I understand he was older and I get that, but I wish I could have had like, you know, 15 seconds to talk to Christopher Lloyd instead of just being like, hi, thank you. So yeah, I have an interesting Sadler story, but I'll wait for you. So a couple other things that I want to point out about you. Like I said, it was shot in about 13 days, really quickly. A lot of it is shot at night, so there were a lot of overnights on this movie. That's, I think, part of the reason.
1:24:09 That was a new thing for Robert Rodriguez, was doing that overnight kind of element. The Kevin McCarthy role, playing the same character he played in Invasion of the Body Snatchers, I looked it up and he apparently played that role in 4 movies. So this movie, both of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers, and apparently Looney Tunes: Back in Action, which I only ever saw once. I don't remember Kevin McCarthy playing Dr. Miles Bunnell in Looney Tunes: Back in Action. He did, yep. There's so many elements ofâ I like the fact watching it this time that because it's so far removed from when this movie was made, we're going on, geez, what, '94? So we're going on, that's 32 years.
1:24:54 Am I doing my math right? Sure. I don't even know. I think so, yes. And we're so far removed as they wereâ we're not as far removed, almost as far removed as they were from the '50s. And at the very least, the movies about the '50s that they made that were more, a little more contemporary. And I can see more how this movie is a '50s movie, but with so many different '90s filmmaking aesthetics. There's just, you can just see the way, the way this is. I mean, if you watch any of the Robert Rodriguez movies, you can see it. But it's just, there's so many elements. I think like that, like the burning the hair was definitely like, that's a '90s thing, that kind of like, that kind of stunt and that kind of narrative element. But I mean, I like that this movie has a chase scene in a fucking, you know, roller skating. And it works.
1:25:53 And it works. It's stupid. It's silly. You have Robert Rodriguez purposely like undercranking the camera, which he loves to do, where like he shoots at like 21 frames per second. So everything's like a little bit faster. I noticed actually when Teddy Leather and his girlfriend are going around, you can see how they're moving in almostâ they're moving at normal speed, normal speed, but everyone else is moving fast around them. So you haveâ so I could tell it was undercranked. But he probably told them to act slower. And it's a reallyâ it's actually really cool watching it this time that I was like, wow, this isâ that's a really cool choice if they did make that choice.
1:26:33 But it very much looked like they were, you know, very uncomfortable around everybody moving so fast around them. And but I could also tell that it was slightly undercranked. So, um, yeah, there's, there's so many other things I could say about it. I really do enjoy this movie. It's just fun. I understand, I know the shortcomings of it, I can recognize them. It's just a lot of fun. Theâ like, it's, it's easy to watch. There's nothing too complicated about what's going on here, but that doesn't mean it's a simple film. Uh, that's what I think I really, really like about this. Yeah, I agree though. Yeah, that it, it doesn'tâ it's weird though, it feels like it Rodriguez movie at times, but a lot of times it doesn't. I'd say it's the least Robert Rodriguez movie there is. Yeah, and it's because he had the least amount of control over this movie because it was just them bringing inâ like, the crew worked on every one of the Rebel Highway movies. So like, if they weren't Robert Rodriguez or, you know, like Johnny Reno or something like that, they didn't, you know, they were working on every single one of the other movies because they just had the same crew no matter what, right? Yeah, I don't know. What do you guys think? Do you agree, or Brandon, Nick, agree that, that this is the least Robert Rodriguez movie that Robert Rodriguez
1:28:03 made? I mean, I, I think like it's hard to pin down what a Robert Rodriguez movie is because like I'm just looking here on IMDb, and if we could have a side bar that doesn't turn into a 3-hour-long episode. He has an incredible filmography. Like, I mean, like, yeah, he's got like his Mariachi Trilogy, but then also Grindhouse, which I love, Sin City, and like so many children's movies. And like, you know, what I appreciate about his children's movies is that they are truly made like for children. They're not made by the same cynical way that like all the, uh, major studios make their kids movies, where it's like about like, uh, you know, filling out the spreadsheet and like that we got to make sure that we please the grandmas. We got to get the boomer song in there for them. We got to get the, uh, the, the toy that can be turned into a plushie and like all these different things.
1:28:58 They're justâ and they're, they'reâ they seem lesser in quality to an adult when you're watching these movies, but when a kid watches these movies like Spy Kids, uh, Shark Girl and Lava Boy, We Can Be Heroes, they're so into it, you know. Like, I remember when my son was younger, he loved all of Robert Rodriguez kids movies, uh, way moreâ like, way more into them than he was into, like, regular animated movies and stuff. And, and this is just some of the stuff. There's obviously, like, you know, silly stuff like Machete. He produced Lucha Underground, the wrestling show, uh, you know, just so much stuff that it's, like, hard to pin down what a Robert Rodriguez movie is other than what is it to you. And to me, it's like grindhouse, machete, uh, that kind of thing. So I don't know, um, supercuts. See, it's kind of like Edgar Wright where theyâ he has like thisâ Rodriguez is really into like the zooming in and just being like, the humor is way off the norm.
1:30:03 Yeah, you know, whereâ that's the shit I'm talking about, where Like the thing that we mentioned where the girl's hair catches fire, it's like, okay, that's a Rodriguez movie. Like, you know that he would do something, you know, and it works in this, but sometimes his humor is fucking shit. Uh, yeah, happens in a lot of his movies. But like, um, The Faculty, even, um, that one there, like, that one is more of an amalgamation of Williamson with, uh, you know, that was like a kind of forced, uh horror movie, I think, upon him in a sense. But you can see that in the very beginning, like the zooms of like, you know, Elijah Wood getting his balls crushed.
1:30:44 And, you know, that's the kind of stuff that Rodriguez would do. That's what I'm saying. So you're saying this is more grounded in that way? It's moreâ well, it has obviously like, like what Dave mentioned with he didn't have as much control in a sense because it's like you got to makeâ these are the, these are the realms you have to work in. You have to do a '50s movie, it has to have this aesthetic, and it has to follow this. You know, that's kind of how it feels. And you got 13 days to shoot. You got 13 days to shoot it, but that's fine. But I think he did a fantastic job for what he had to deal, deal with. But compared to like his other films like Desperado and all that other kind of stuff, like it feels closer to Desperado, honestly.
1:31:33 Yeah, than his later stuff. Um, right. But I don't know, because even like El Mariachi, uh, like I, I have, uh, I never finished El Mariachi. I remember I rented it like 25 years ago and I was just like, I'm not that into this. I'd probably enjoy it more now than I did then. It's, it's a good first one. We'll have to add it. It's only an hour and 21 minutes. Nice, nice. The easy watch. But it feels very, very much more amateurish, like he's developing what would become his style, right? Rather than, uh, what it, you knowâ well, it's like his, uh, shortâ what is it, Bedhead? Isn't it Bedhead?
1:32:14 Well, yeah, well, everything he, he, you know, he was an animator first. That's the key thing. Before he decided to do filmmaking, he was, he was animating stuff, you know, doing animations and, and all kinds of cartoonist um, drawings in college and everything. So that's most of it. A lot of his aesthetic is cartoonish. That's, that's part of it. If you look atâ I'm just like looking at it now and I'm seeing like even the segment in the 4 rooms is like the most cartoonish segment in the entire, in the entire movie, right? Yeah, that fucking 4 rooms. Um, like, I don't evenâ I don't know if I like that movie. I like the 2â I like the, the, the 2 sequences and that's about it. Like, I like his sequence is the best one, and then Tarantino's is okay. It's the only movie of Tarantino's I don't have and I don't want. You don't need it. I don't. I know I saw it and I'm like, yeah, let's, let's hope thatâ that was like his M is for miscarriage of Timeless's career.
1:33:13 That was his miscarriage. Nick, so you saw the Spy Kids movies or I've seen them all too. Um, yeah, I've seenâ I mean, I've been in the room while they're playing. I was not necessarily present because I've never watched the Spy Kids. The first 2, the first 2 are actually not bad for as kids movies, but they're good. They're actually not bad. And there's a lot of those little just filmmaking elements he throws into it because it's stuff, you know, like at one point in Spy Kids 2, they're fighting skeletons and he purposely made them stop, you know, even though they're digital, he made them move like Harryhausen skeletons and, you know, stuff like that. Also, also the thing that's important in the Spy Kids movies, or the Lava Girl and Sharkboy, or, uh, We Can Be Heroes, which was the more recent one from like 2020, I thinkâ all these movies, they feature like everything is on the kids, and like the kids are the main attraction of these movies. And, and you don't always see that in movies made for kids, especially live-action ones.
1:34:12 And I mean, they'reâ the focus is on these kids, whether they're good actors or not. And like, I think it makes it like just so much more relatable for a kid to sit there and watch. Like, if I was a kid, I would want to sit there and watch that. I'm, I'm a fat old adult. When I saw these, it's not like I could get into them really. But the other part that'sâ sorry, go ahead. Okay, the other part about Spy Kids that's like great is how many cameos he does because he is literally good enough to be here. Here, I'm gonna have you work 3 days and you're gonna do like 7 scenes in 3 days. I mean, that's, that's famously what, uh, Johnny Depp did in Once Upon a Time in Mexico. I think he only filmed a few days on it and then he's likeâ people are like, you're the star of that movie.
1:34:56 And he's like, I did a little work on it, I don't understand. Um, but if you look at how he Like Spy Kids 3D, he literally is like digitally filmed everybody. Like he like would go to where they are and just be like, okay, let's film that. Let's film George Clooney as the president. And he'll do that. And then like Sylvester Stallone will do these parts. And then like, oh, here's every single person that's in this movie. And they never actually met each other when they all put their hands in a circle. So it's very muchâ he still kept that aesthetic and that style of like just being, uh, you know, being the, the rebel filmmaker kind of thing where he's just trying to do low-budget style things. And, and a lot of the kids movies he made with his, with his kids. Um, he co-wrote like, I think, uh, Sharkboy and Lavagirl and We Can Be Heroes were co-written with his, uh, one of his sons, right? Okay. And I mean, it also like is a perfect way to actually speak to kids when making a freaking movie is just right directly for them. And, uh, right, I've been pandering. Yeah, but it's notâ it's like, you know, it reminds me of movies when we were younger, like in the '80s and stuff, where a movie would focus on the kids and like the adults would be like the background characters, almost like the, uh, the, the, the, the teacher in Charlie Brown or something, you know? Like, we're in the Peanuts, they're just likeâ it's all about these like kids just doing stuff, you know what I mean?
1:36:24 It's like South Park until it became not about the kids. Well, yeah, but, uh, you know, for kids, right? Like The Goonies. Yeah, likeâ I'm not gonna say The Goonies. There were many other movies that you could have said instead, but Monster Squad points to the '90s. Monster Squad's a good one. I'll say Pippi Longstocking. Pippi Longstocking. I just pulled that out of my butt, and I think that was '90s maybe. But yeah, I don't know, I'm not Googling it. I'm not Googling it. Put it back in there, it stinks. Oh yeah, but when I was a kid, I had to watch it a couple of times because when you had something on video, that's what you had to do. That's life.
1:37:05 But, um, theâ yeah, so I mean, like, but I'm just saying, he's made such an array of movies. Yeah, across 30 years. And like, you know, granted, some of them are fantastic. Like Grindhouse is one of my favorite movies. And, um, some of themâ and Sin City is fantastic tooâ but then like some of them not so great here and there, but like whatever. It's just that he's done such a wide array of things where like here we are like 30 years later and we're like, will Quentin Tarantino make another movie? Will he make his 10th only movie? You know, quality versus, uh, quantity. But this one still has a lot of quality throughout is what I'm saying. But he hasn'tâ Rodriguez as far as like recently, his output for film really hasn't happened. Well, he's, he's done, he, he's done a lot of producing. Like, that's what he's been sticking with. He did a lot of the Star Wars, the El Rey stuff. He did do direct and showrun, um, uh, Book of Boba Fett, right? He did 3 episodes of Book of Boba Fett, and, and, and he did the episode of The Mandalorian where Boba Fett returns. That was his movie, that episode that he directed, right? So he did those things, which is funny because the only thing I'll say, because it does link back to this movie about Book of Boba Fett, if, if you remember, they had the, uh, the, the biker gang in Book of Boba Fett, and everyone's like, where the hell did this come from? Where the hell did this come from?
1:38:31 Like, what? Why does this belong here? And I'm just like, it's fucking Road Racers, you dumb fuck. Like, you just gotta know the filmmaker. Why did they put it in? He loves He loves that aesthetic and he put it in Star Wars. Who gives a shit? That's what George Lucas did. Same thing. He liked shit and he put it in the movie. Sorry, that's my little rant about it. Is it a great moment of Book of Boba Fett? No, but I knew where it came from. I knew the reference. Oh, speaking of rant, I got a quick one about William Sadler. Dave, remember at that MonsterMania, we were there and there was a guy who also met William Sadler and he had him sign the Trespass poster. And he said that William Sadler got into an argument with Bill Paxton on that set and punched him in the face and the entire crew applauded.
1:39:25 That's, that's what he told us, right? And all these years later, I'm like, I, I'm wondering, because, you know, he said that William Sadler said this to him, but we didâ I wasn't there for it. And a lot of times people tend to like make up their own stories when they have these celebrity encounters, you know. So years later, I went to, uh, Texas Frightmare when my goddess, uh, my second goddess next to Pamela Springsteen, Neff Campbell, was there. And, um, William Sadler was also there. And I went to a Q&A with William Sadler, and I was able to ask him a question. I said, I gotta ask him if this is true. So I asked him that, and he just stopped and he goes, no, no.
1:40:10 He goes, I, I did hit him. He's like, but Bill Paxton was a great guy. He goes, Iâ we never argued. No. He's like, um, and he said the crew didn't clap. That never happened. He's like, no. He's like, what happened was we were filming the scene and Bill Paxton was getting upset about something. Iâ not with me, he was just getting upset with whatever was happening, or there was something about, you know, a camera or whatever, but he was getting mad about that. And then I hit him accidentally, and then that's when it was like people in the background were like, yeah, like that again. It stopped right away. He's like, there, there was no cheering. He's like, that wouldn't happen. He's like, Bill Paxton is a great guy. I said, oh, okay, thank you for clarifying that. So You know, sometimes people are lying sacks of shit. So, but Bill, uh, but I'm not lying about my interaction. Fucking lying, dude. Dave is such a bullshit artist. Dave wasâ Dave was also punched. Yes, he was. He was. It wasâ it wasâ but he was aiming for Kane Hodder. I think Brandon got punched today when he mentioned Goonies. He's down for the count, usually. He mentioned Army of Darkness. He gets punched by Nick.
1:41:31 Poor Brandon. Yeah, it's okay. One day you'll get your punch on Nick and it'll be great. I don't think that's gonna happen anyway. Yeah, probably not. All right, so is that everything, Dave? I think that's everything. Uh, I think that all I need to do is just get in my car and, uh You'll be a fading image in my rearview mirror. That was beautiful. Brandon. Yes. Guess what? Next week's my pick? No. Um, I just saved a bunch of money. Yes, next week is your pick. What is your pick, Mr. Brandon Yoshinobu Takagi? Um, what?
1:42:17 Um, Die Hard reference. Oh yeah, been a while. Um, yeah, we talk aboutâ no, we've mentioned Jean-Claude Van Damme numerous times, and I feel like we need to watch one of his movies. So I want to watch Kickboxer. Let's do that. You know what? No, I saw it. But like, uh, I haven't seen it since Cable. Well, there you go. Now you got a reason. Same, actually. Yeah, I've been wanting to watch it again. So cool. And the gangâ well, Crystal and the gang. Crystal and the gang.
1:43:01 The COVID band will be playing, uh, next week at the Screening Room. And since they don't have sex, they're gonna be like, celebrate. Get down, huh? They're not Celebration, it's Celibacy. Oh God, no, that's, that's the, that's the Christian, uh, the Christian cover band. Yeah, BC80. Crystal Christian, all that time. That's cool. All right, so Kickboxer next week, and then, um, after that Nick's picking again because I am abstaining for ourâ abstain?
1:43:43 Yeah. Yes. Yes. Because of this celibacy here, I'm abstaining for our, uh, our Wonder Mints, uh, Thanksgiving episode, which I'mâ that's, that's coming out the day before Thanksgiving and you're all going to want to be here for that. It's gonna be amazing. Yeah, you should, uh, call those kids back in so they could whip up a feast for us to eat. Now we're making them cook? Yeah, yeah. What the hell? Well, you're drivingâ you're driving away. Yeah, that's why I'm leaving, because I need to report the child labor. That's okay, they'll be all right, right, Brandon? Yeah, they'll be fine. Yeah, it's gonna be okay. All right, Kickboxer next week.
1:44:34 Nobody wear your boxers for the screening. We're all gonna wear clothing for the screening of Kickboxer. Yeah, Dave, or I will kick you into boxers. There you go. That's, that's all I got. Sorry, it's, it's late. All right, good night everybody. See ya. Bye. Good night.